Dear Leader to shut down democracy – again!

I’m not too surprised to see that the Harperites are once again thumbing their noses at the democratic process!

What gall! What an affront to our system of government! And considering how much work is going to be wasted, what a waste of money!

The House of Commons and the Senate will come back in March, after the Vancouver Olympics, for a Speech from the Throne and a budget. The move will have the effect of stalling all bills currently in Parliament, including crime bills that the government had said were being delayed by the opposition.

Well, so much for the ReformCons using “soft on crime” ads against the Libs in the next election!

A post-Olympic return would also shut down government committees, which would stop MPs from pursuing the Afghan detainee controversy until Parliament returned.

… which, of course, is the REAL reason behind this.

I am almost physically SICK to my stomach over this! How can anyone, ANYONE consider voting for these dictators????

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9 Comments to “Dear Leader to shut down democracy – again!”

  1. Now on that we agree. We didn’t get “doing things differently”, we got “same shit, not even with the courtesy of a different pile.”

    But you can’t call Harper out for doing anything that his Liberal predecessors did, unless you also call them out.

    There is, perhaps, an issue where parliament can be shutdown on a whim… that is a general problem with our process, not with the people who use it.

    Similarly, the senate is traditionally stacked en-masse by political hacks when the PM needs a bit of a boost. That isn’t the ruling party’s problem, it’s a problem with the way the senate is filled.

    A party that was serious about reforming our electoral system across the board would be well on their way to getting my vote.

  2. trashee says:

    OK. For both the Squid-dude and Ken… and anyone else, for that matter, let me remind you of a couple of things:

    1) I am essentially non-partisan. I am, however, very much anti-Harper and his reform party weltanschung. Any party that has a chance to beat these morons back to the Stone Age is by default MY party.
    2) I woulda railed against the Chretien tactics as much as I do the Harper tactics. BUT. I didn’t have a forum (i.e. “blog”) to do so at the time.
    3) WRT #2 above: I DID – on the public record – rail against all of the major parties when I ran against them all in 1993. Pre-blog, but I did alright all things considered.

    C’mon y’all. You know that calling on past screw-ups is no justification to carry them on ad nauseum. I don’t like what happened in the past any more than you do. But consider this: the Harperite credo was to “do” politics differently. Look it up.

    They are going against their avowed principles in the name of political expedience. I didn’t agree with much of Preston Manning said, but at least he was sincere… all of this crap coming from the movement he helped to found must be driving him ape-shit!

    Happy New Year, Friends. I hope to meet you both in person in 2010. It might be worth a good chuckle or three!

  3. just so it’s clear… what’s happening now is precisely like what happened in each of my examples of the Libs doing it. IIRC, the first one I mentioned in Nov 2003 killed off a really stupid copyright bill that looked like it was going to make it, but died when parliament stepped out.

    Sometimes I think the government does it when they have a raft of stupid legislation that needs to go away, but have no nice way of getting rid of it after a certain point. Both main parties do it.

  4. Those examples I listed were parliamentary session changes – everything stopped, bills died, etc. They weren’t just holidays.

  5. trashee says:

    No way Squid-dude – big diff is that Harper is proroguing – not taking an extended break. Prorogation means that all Bills die and all the work leading to them is wasted. During a “break”, Committee work continues, hearings happen, etc. But when a Parliament is prorogued, EVERYTHING stops and is shut down.
    They are doing this in order to avoid more controversy about the Afghan cover-up and all sources of potential embarrassment MUST be squelched!

  6. Ken says:

    And just as democratic as the Coalition is the Proroguing of Parliament. You may not like it, but as many suggested for the coalition: The rules allow it, so it should be done.

  7. This is different than what has been done in past years how? Parliament is notorious for very long, extended breaks in the summer and Christmas.

    Need I remind you of the 37th parliament under Jean Chretien that seemed to need from Nov 12, 2003 until Feb 2, 2004 to kick back, enjoy Christmas and generally not get any work done… likely because there was an election looming?

    Or the 36th parliament, also under Chretien, that took mid-September to mid-October 1999 just because?

    Or the 35th parliament, also under Chretien, that took Feb 1997 off?

    Or the 26th parliament, under Pearson, that took an apropos 21 Dec, 1963 until 18 Feb, 1964 for a time of reflection (also a minority gov, I might add).

    I’d say you’re raising much ado about nothing.

  8. trashee says:

    Ah Ken, Ken, Ken – you and I will never agree on some things! Even during the Holidays! 🙂

    But just one tiny thing – the Coalition would have in fact been quite democratic according to our existing legislative process…

    But we do most assuredly agree that the Politics of Opportunism and Cynicism is carry the day!

    Oh – and I do dream about the GG saying “no”… but that ain’t gonna happen.

  9. Ken says:

    heheheh

    You’re just jealous that the Liberals never thought of using it 😉 Besides, the government can only ask to prorogue; the GG has to approve it, and there’s always the possibility that she’ll say No.

    And on a more serious note, you saying “the Harperites are once again thumbing their noses at the democratic process!” is a bit rich. You were a huge proponent of the Coalition, a non-democratic option to the current government.

    Regardless of our differing points of view though, I think you and I can agree that politics in this country – you’ve mentioned this before – is no longer about democracy or serving the public: it’s about opportunism, and doing what’s right for the politician – not the public.

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