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	<title>Comments on: When did Canada become so militaristic?</title>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://trashysworld.ca/2009/11/10/when-did-canada-become-so-militaristic/comment-page-1/#comment-5112</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may surprise you that I partially agree with you here.  And so bandobras (or anyone else who cares) is aware, I am speaking as a former soldier with 9 years of time in during the last 30 years.

I, too, am becoming increasingly concerned that people are becoming militaristic without understanding what the ramifications of feeling that way really are.  I support the military, and I think that in the world as it is now (and is likely to be in the foreseeable future), a well armed, well trained, professional military force is essential to preserving our basic freedoms.  We need people willing to take on this responsibility as long as there are people in the world willing to use force against us.  It is, in my opinion, unjustified to fault the soldier - his existence is the consequence of the malfeasance of others, and he&#039;s doing what he feels is right so other people are safe.

I am not now, nor have I ever been - including when I wore a uniform, a proponent of projecting war on other people.  Defend ourselves, do not be the aggressor.  

I&#039;d argue, for example, that the people of Iraq are demonstrably worse off now than they were under Saddam.  Canada was absolutely right not to get involved in that fiasco.

Afghanistan is a bit different.  There was, initially, a somewhat solid ground for a limited campaign to achieve specific goals.  Unfortunately, that has long been lost.  Afghanistan is better off now than they were before, but when foreign forces pull out they&#039;re going to be back to the same-old in a few years... so really, what has been achieved for the mighty cost?  What is the benefit to Canada of our continuing participation in the conflict?

It&#039;s not that I disrespect the soldiers... I pretty well disrespect the people who send them places to die for nothing.

Sooner, rather than later, some North Korean nutbag is going to go on a rampage, and we&#039;ll all be glad there are soldiers to protect us.  Frankly, if things had carried on the way they were going down south, I&#039;d have been expecting US tanks rolling across our borders, and I&#039;d hope that we have enough Canadians with the cojones to fight them back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may surprise you that I partially agree with you here.  And so bandobras (or anyone else who cares) is aware, I am speaking as a former soldier with 9 years of time in during the last 30 years.</p>
<p>I, too, am becoming increasingly concerned that people are becoming militaristic without understanding what the ramifications of feeling that way really are.  I support the military, and I think that in the world as it is now (and is likely to be in the foreseeable future), a well armed, well trained, professional military force is essential to preserving our basic freedoms.  We need people willing to take on this responsibility as long as there are people in the world willing to use force against us.  It is, in my opinion, unjustified to fault the soldier &#8211; his existence is the consequence of the malfeasance of others, and he&#8217;s doing what he feels is right so other people are safe.</p>
<p>I am not now, nor have I ever been &#8211; including when I wore a uniform, a proponent of projecting war on other people.  Defend ourselves, do not be the aggressor.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue, for example, that the people of Iraq are demonstrably worse off now than they were under Saddam.  Canada was absolutely right not to get involved in that fiasco.</p>
<p>Afghanistan is a bit different.  There was, initially, a somewhat solid ground for a limited campaign to achieve specific goals.  Unfortunately, that has long been lost.  Afghanistan is better off now than they were before, but when foreign forces pull out they&#8217;re going to be back to the same-old in a few years&#8230; so really, what has been achieved for the mighty cost?  What is the benefit to Canada of our continuing participation in the conflict?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I disrespect the soldiers&#8230; I pretty well disrespect the people who send them places to die for nothing.</p>
<p>Sooner, rather than later, some North Korean nutbag is going to go on a rampage, and we&#8217;ll all be glad there are soldiers to protect us.  Frankly, if things had carried on the way they were going down south, I&#8217;d have been expecting US tanks rolling across our borders, and I&#8217;d hope that we have enough Canadians with the cojones to fight them back.</p>
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		<title>By: bandobras</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you could write this especially on the week we celebrate the brave men and women who so rightfully saved the world from the nasties back in the WW&#039;s.
It should be apparent to anyone that the present effort in Afghanistan is working to perfection. Ever since we got there with the rest of the Nato forces, you know the ones scattered around the North Atlantic, we have seen that the Afghanis have not continued on their spiral to world domination and have not attacked a single Nato nation.
I&#039;m sorry what&#039;s that, oh, they never did attack a Nato Nation? They have never attacked a Nato Nation? They have in fact seldom if ever attacked anyone who wasn&#039;t in their territory with the exception of a few border skirmishes? They haven&#039;t done anything like that in oh about 1000 yrs but have defeated and thrown out every single occupying power.
Ah, pardon me, maybe just maybe this has more to do with something other than protecting Canada and Nato.
ps Thanks for having the courage to write this. And peace and safety to all the warriors. Sooner than later I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you could write this especially on the week we celebrate the brave men and women who so rightfully saved the world from the nasties back in the WW&#8217;s.<br />
It should be apparent to anyone that the present effort in Afghanistan is working to perfection. Ever since we got there with the rest of the Nato forces, you know the ones scattered around the North Atlantic, we have seen that the Afghanis have not continued on their spiral to world domination and have not attacked a single Nato nation.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry what&#8217;s that, oh, they never did attack a Nato Nation? They have never attacked a Nato Nation? They have in fact seldom if ever attacked anyone who wasn&#8217;t in their territory with the exception of a few border skirmishes? They haven&#8217;t done anything like that in oh about 1000 yrs but have defeated and thrown out every single occupying power.<br />
Ah, pardon me, maybe just maybe this has more to do with something other than protecting Canada and Nato.<br />
ps Thanks for having the courage to write this. And peace and safety to all the warriors. Sooner than later I hope.</p>
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